[08/11 14:26] Abdul: https://youtu.be/3k6MBedWTww
It’s shameful for David, his 20 years of so called study of Islam didn’t help him, at least holy spirit could have helped him in the debate!
If someone have holy spirit then why should study 20 years? ! Secondly, false claim of having holy spirit blown up in this debate!
At least CHRISTIAN prince (LoL) could have taught some Arabic to his fellow apostle David Wood!
If they cannot stand a young bachelor level scholar like Mohammed Hijab, how are they going to stand against giant triple PhD level scholars of traditional Sunni Islam?
Claiming to have invested his 20 years of time to do research on Islam , achieved a doctorate degree and advertised as expert on Islam. We see David Wood and Sam Shamoun are confused about what they were doing. He himself confess in the debate that he is confused!
This is what happens when you study Islam without real holy spirit and or without an expert in that science!
So many masks fell down that Day. The lady (see from 3:00:00 in the video) in Q&A became so emotional, she started attacking Mr M Hijab. Because she could not tolerate how Mr Mohammad Hijab cut down David Wood and her fortress of hope fell down with a great confusion. See Matthew 7 where it talk about false disciples building near the banks of River!
The lady cannot sit down herself who felt threatened or mocked by a debater of Islam in one hour , and she felt offended by the debate from Muslims, so she cannot see for 20 years many Muslims were feeling same with David Woods attack on prophet and Islam!
Isn’t it another double standard of Christian missionaries,who sympathies David Wood who abuse our prophet for decades and same time feel offended when Muslims bring up decent theological arguments?!
One hour debate make a Christian lady angry and frustrated and she attack Muslim debater instead of asking a question about religion and theology!
If one hour proper debate make Christians intolerant then I can proudly say Islam is more tolerant religion than any others.
David Wood, CP and Sam Shamoun were attacking Islam for 20 years and no Muslim in the debate audience talked angrily against David Wood.
Rather they asked proper questions!
And women are told to be submissive and self disciplined. The lady prove to be false disciples of Paul in the |Church of false disciple David Wood!
1 Corinthians 14:35 If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.
(Here , Church means a Congregation where public attend to worship or teach about God)
1 Timothy 2:11 A woman must learn in quietness and full submissiveness.
1 Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet.
1 Corinthians 11:5 And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for it is just as if her head were shaved.
1 Corinthians 11:13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?
Paul says to this new generation Christian women to judge themselves and not to Judge Islam!
Today Who really follows Paul’s commandments to the gentiles churches?
Show me at least one gentile church that follow Paul correctly?!
Islam is the only religion that is close to the commandments found in the Bible!.
So let us look at the foolishness of David Wood in the debate!
From 37 Min on wards in the Video, David Wood brought up the case for Trinity!
David Wood Quoting ISAIAH 9:6 LoL
Isaiah 9:6 New American Standard Bible
For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
Is Isaiah 9:6 really speak about the Messiah!? According to the Jewish scholarship (those who have the scriptures) says that it spoke about the ruling king Hezkeiah! So why do the Christian missionary misinterpret Isaiah 9:6 and twist the Jewish scriptures? Missionary say, Muslims are twisting Christian New Testament! Why the Christians twisting the Old Testament and offending Jewish faith? Hypocrisy and double standard? People are not allowed to study Bible independently? Wasn’t the reason reformation and protestant movement came up? ! Nowadays are the evangelicals turning into Catholic autocratic movement? .
As we can see Isaiah 9:6 spoke about someone who had already been born!. It is said, his name “will be called”, not “is called!” so and so (wonderful counsellor , mighty god etc)
In which context Isaiah 9:6 wrote this word!? In the context of Psalm 82:6 , the leaders and rulers of Israel are called gods and some kings are called mighty god! Why the evangelicals cannot use the Bible to interpret the Bible?. They are using their own vain thoughts to interpret their Bible to make new false doctrines!
read more here:Gospel of Christ refutes Christian missionaries attributing Isaiah 9:6 to Jesus Christ
John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) received this authority from the God Almighty,, because he prayed to God and Submitted himself to the will of God!
Quran clarifies this in Surah 3 verse 26: Say, “O Allah, Owner of Sovereignty, You give sovereignty to whom You will and You take sovereignty away from whom You will. You honor whom You will and You humble whom You will. In Your hand is [all] good. Indeed, You are over all things competent.
I will pray to the Father, and he will give you another Helper, that he may be with you forever,–
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“And I shall request from my Father and he will give you another Redeemer of the accursed, that he will be with you for eternity.”
Christ declare that Father is Greater than him, when he return to the Father. But Jesus must be equal with the Father when Jesus return to the Father after his earthly life, in heaven according to Church doctrines!
God the son doesn’t have his own power and glory!
Glory and power were given to Christ in his time on the earth according to the Bible!
John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
Hebrews 5:7 During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
Only God Father could save Jesus, so Jesus prayed to the true God.
And which contradict Christian doctrine which says Jesus is almighty in flesh!
The God whom Jesus worshiped is greater than Jesus!
John 14:28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
John 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all;
So how come Jesus says Father is Greater that him when he returns to the Father?. Both should be equal in the heaven if we have to accept the doctrine of Church!. The verse in John 14:28 Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) says about the relationship between him and the Father when returns!. It is clearly not co-equal relationship!
We follow the plain truth about God and Christ, which is taught by Jesus and all prophets.
You may follow mythological philosophy about Jesus authored by Romans!!
And we are inviting you to the truth.
Today if Jesus and all prophets are to stand together with their teachings. Tell tell us which Prophet’s or Jesus teachings your words and beliefs fit into!?
So as Mr Pastor earlier admitted, ask the same questions.
Are this fiec doctrines in the Bible?!
If yes then please quote it
Trinity Error 2: His own sovereign Will.
If God Is One and exist as three persons, then the Will of that One God must be One always and The tri union God should not be in confusion over the Will.
1 Corinthians 14:33 English Standard Version
For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
But Jesus speaks of dual will and submitting to God’s Will.
Matthew 26:42 He went away a second time and prayed, “My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done.“
Matthew 6:10 your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
Trinity Error 3: God the son Unchangeable in wisdom!?
Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
John 15:15 for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) does not know the Hour!. This annuls the Church doctrine: “God is unchangeable in his wisdom”.
Secondly in John 15:15 Jesus Christ says that he learned from the Father, this disprove the Church doctrine of Co-Equal tri-union Christ! And Christ teach his acquired knowledge to his disciples!. So can disciples (normal humans) have the same degree of knowledge of God has?
Put some IQ into your beliefs and think about it! Religion without IQ is like food without salt!:
James 1:13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” *For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;
Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but *we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are–yet he did not sin.
The Bible says Satan knew God and Satan entered the presence of God many times (read our previous articles) If God cannot be tempted then why should god the Holy spirit leave God the son to be tempted in the wilderness! And Angels come to aid God the son?! Wake up People!
Trinity Error 4: God (Jesus) is unchangeable in holiness?:
JESUS WAS LOWER THAN ANGELS :
Hebrews 2:9 King James Bible
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Christian Standard Bible
But we do see Jesus– made lower than the angels for a short time so that by God’s grace he might taste death for everyone– crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death.
According to Hebrews, Jesus is a high priest forever. A high priest Is not God, but a servant of God chosen to be a mediator between God and Mankind.
Hebrews speaks of Jesus as apostle and high priest!
The Book Acts explains Jesus as the servant of God.
Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified His servant Jesus. You handed Him over and rejected Him before Pilate, even though he had decided to release Him.
Acts 4:27 In fact, this is the very city where Herod and Pontius Pilate conspired with the Gentiles and the people of Israel against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed.
Now the question is is Jesus a servant of the triunion GOD? If yes,then who is the missing person in trinity?!
The verses prove God is Singular deity!
Trinity Error- 5 Is Jesus Tri-union God in the Heaven?
JESUS IS NOT GOD IN THE HEAVENS:
[04/11 08:27] Abdul: Hi,, good morning, a question today What prevent people from accepting the TRUTH? And what allows people to spend hours on engaging with things other than the true religious path? So nobody wants to answer my questions,all I can see is some junk arguments and everyone have got time to cook that
At least quote or verse from the Bible where disciples worshipping Jesus as deity with prayers and petition to Jesus in prayers to Jesus! With ritual worship hymns and glorification which is given to the LORD! If in the 50 years ministry of the disciples didn’t have such worshipping to Jesus, then who formulated it after the disciples?
So how long will you rebel against the truth , God , Christ and Gospel? . See this are serious matters . God is not looking for doctrines but to obey Him Almighty as Jesus (Hebrews 5:7) and other prophets obeyed before!
I m Talking to you from my heart not from my ego!
Don’t make God’s commandments into a playful joke or taking it in vain (in our own desires)
Please don’t quote Revelation where 24 elders worshipped near the throne to the one who sit on the throne!
Because according to your gospel Jesus doesn’t sit on the throne,but right hand of god’s throne!
Hebrews 1:13 o which of the angels did God ever say, Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”?
Hebrews 8:1 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,
Hebrews 12:2 We do this by keeping our eyes on Jesus, the champion who initiates and perfects our faith. Because of the joy awaiting him, he endured the cross, disregarding its shame. Now he is seated in the place of honor beside God’s throne.
Revelation 4:10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:
So you can see that we Muslims are the true worshippers (See John 4:23:-24) and you are vain worshippers (see Mark 7:7-9) who worship God through Man made doctrines!. We worship God (Who Sit on His Throne) with the 24 elders!. You worship Jesus in vain (Matthew 15:9) who sit in the heaven near to the throne of God!
So if you still cannot understand the fallacy of your doctrines ,then come back to us with manners and humility we may give you some theology lessons with humble and kind treatment!
So please stop twisting and lying on Jesus and God,whom we acknowledge as apostle and high priest! Hebrews 3:1
If Jesus is God then why he is not on the throne!?
If God is trinity,then who are the three commanding Jesus to sit right side of the tri-union God?
If Jesus is the only true God then who is that super power God who is ordering Jesus to sit next to His throne!?
Bible plainly annuls CHRISTIANITY and affirms Islam !
accept the TRUTH AND TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!
Another foolishness of David wood is speaking on The 1st command of Torah, elohim Yahweh Elohim is one. Making trinity with that and saying , about all the authorities of heaven is with Jesus and To respect Jesus as you respect God , he claims that this verses make Jesus deity!
In such case and false logic, irrational and school boy thoughts, we must say that all married men in CHRISTIANITY are also deities!
Because Bible teach the wives to obey husband s as they obey the LORD!
Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.
Masters of the slaves are also deities?! Because Bible says to obey them as they obey Jesus!?
Ephesians 6:5*Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would show to Christ.
Qur’an says that do not obey authority parents or any man or even own self if they force you to disobey God! That’s called to struggle against the self !
So David Wood is refuted by the Bible!
Basically Trinitarians saying that Holy spirit didn’t reveal the complete message to Jesus Christ and his disciples, it all revealed through the (false) apostle of the councils that came 200. Years later!
If Paul and other NT apostles didn’t formulate the Christian doctrines ,then either it means they were not real Christians or they didn’t believe such meaning is found in the scriptures.For us who are living today, we stick to the organic way taught by Jesus Christ and the prophets. Christian may do whatever they want to believe.
We are only answering missionaries because of their preaching to us the doctrine of trinity.
If they just followed their way to themselves then personally I don’t want to interfere into their affairs!
Christianity is a gentile interpretation of the gospel. Islam is a prophetic completion of the knowledge of the scriptures and restoration of original message of all the prophets. So you see in Islam wide opinion of the jurisprudence traditions and one fundamental theology.
Because of the teaching of our prophet encompasses all the previous prophets traditions and customs!
So all the traditions of the previous prophets are part of the voluntary good acts, except for patron prophets like Ibrahim a.s and traditions of hajj,,you can sing and worship God in happiness in Islam like prophet David a.s
You can stick to zuhd (asceticism) and worship God in seclusion in mountain like Jesus Christ and Nabi Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him)
Some sects in Islam misunderstood sunnah and believe sunnah is only the sunnah of the last prophet, though various narration speaking about sunnah of the previous prophets. And they think some acts in Islam are bidha (innovation)
To have half baked knowledge is danger in Christianity as well as Judaism and Islam!
MOTHER OF THE QURAN:
David Wood again confused the Metaphorical statement in the Quran about Quran having a “Mother Book” Umm Al Kitaab!
Basically, Umm Al Kitaab denotes the original heavenly source of all the Divine Revelations (Quran, Torah, Gospel and Injil) which the Heavenly Pen Wrote in Divine Tablet (Umm Al Kitab) the source of all revelations.
David Wood and his counterparts take Quran verses literally and are confused and they don’t know what they are speaking , they admit it in their debate itself!
If someone say, so and so is the Father of History, Father of modern Medicine. Does that mean that the Medicine has a literal Father?. I suggest Muslim speakers not to waste time with school boys who are playing against islam with their school boy minded hatred and jealousy! Seek real scholars such as John Piper, James White etc who knows at least what they are believing! Because David Wood has problems with some verses of the Bible as he admits in this debate! And boys like Nabeel Qureshi was converted by this types of Missionaries who are confused about Islam and have issues with their own Bible!.
WAS THE QURAN COMPILED IN THE TIME OF THE PROPHET?
(peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)!
In the Name of Allah Most Merciful Most Beneficent
It was reported from Malik, from Nafi that Abdullah bin Umar said: “The Messenger of Allah prohibited travelling with the QURAN to the territory of the enemy.” (sahih /authentic)~ Sunan Abu Dawood 2610
So why some people insist on their saying that Quran was written decades after the prophet?!
People pretend to be experts in Islam and everything they say is nonsense!
The guys recited Qur’an before the debate with David Wood, and the ghost fled from the s scene, David wood became like a soft doll there the true spirit of Islam was raging against David wood and you see the spirit of Islam there. I saw it,as I was hunting David wood and caught him up with someone who can talk to him, because this guys were calling me to America to debate.so it was done through their party!
I want to debate in a panel -questionnaire discussion mode with. Sam David Wood, jay Smith, Ravi Zacharias , John Piper, Living Waters ministries together in one Live show !
As you see in RT News , Peter Lavile live with 3- 4 other guys!
Cross talk with the four missionary leaders aforementioned
As I said earlier, don’t be sad about their abusive works against Islam. They are planned and Allah also planned,Allah s plan succeeded.
They wanted to mock Islam but their existence promoted Muslims to be active in dawah and opening doors to dawah. Without David wood ,this shake up wouldn’t have happened. Without Pagans attacking Islam it would have spread slowly. God’s plan is great !
They are indirectly promoting Islam among people. Through their evil attack against Islam it will knock intellect of the public and they will be motivated to the dialogue and it will destroy what is falsehood
If there is a David Wood in every country,then you will see Islam taking prevalence all over. Imagine if there is a David Wood or jay Smith in our local town There will be a wave of intellectual dialogue between us and them . And surely what is true will benefit and prevail. And people can watch and understand that.just as they revised the debate
The problem is we don’t have a local David Wood jay Smith kind. To come forward bravely and debate in a hall. Everyone want to discuss secretly, if they are afraid of strong debate ,they bring in very emotional elder women into the debate groups and that cause a real discussion to get halted, as the lady did talk in David Wood debate, the elderly Chretien ladies get emotional and frustrated and eventually the discussion get dull!
Then they say ,they want to speak only elementary truth which they believe,and nothing in depth and details!
Ask Cramer, whether my observation is true or false🙏🏻
Leave elders alone. Those who get frustrated or angry should not engage in any debates or discussion
If someone really want an intensive discussion, then they should not add those vulnerable elders to such forums and cause them to get frustrated with the whole thing. That is very sneaky and disrespectful to add elders who have no experience of debates and arguments.
A pastor blocked me 100s times and unblocked me 99 times, metaphorically!
Because he struggles with intensity of the topics and it’s deep impact on his faith . Because when someone have no answer, they either keep
Silent and continue with their beliefs, others become angry and frustrated. Brave ones who are truthful to their own soul sees nothing is important than truth and their relationship with truth, they are adventurous and they discover and conquer new things
[09/11 21:32] Abdul: It is always those who are very uncomfortable people who achieved something. Look at those children of very successful parents, majority are spoilt brats.