Apologetic Post, God

Crucifixion: Making of Satan into God the Father

MUSLIM UNDERSTANDING OF CRUCIFIXION IS SAME AS CHRIST’S UNDERSTANDING OF CRUCIFIXION VS CHRISTIAN UNDERSTANDING OF CRUCIFIXION:
In the Name of Allah Most Merciful Most Beneficent
Muslims in general claim Jesus did not die on the pagan cross because the Qur’an states Jesus was not killed or CRUCIFIED.
Personally I too agree with the Qur’an without doubts or reasoning or seeking proof  outside the Qur’an.
But if someone challenge the proof of Qur’an and bring a false evidence we must look into it and to prove the Qur’an is absolutely right in its claim. 
Historians cannot be very reliable or helpful to understand religions and THEOLOGY. Because history only narrate the views of the people who are known to the historian. And such views will be taken from the laymen opinions!
Even the Bible verses from the Galatians chapters 1,2 and 3, we can see that Paul was insulting Galatians for some belief they held about Christ which some people had taught them.
So the death of Christ according to church is a sacrifice for the sins of the world. Other than this, Jesus does not have to die! 
So asking a question, whether Jesus really forgiven our sins by dying on the Cross?, Will reveal the Theological answers for the question was Jesus crucified?
Especially when we look at the second coming of Messiah, we see that he even punish Christians for law breaking and lawlessness (Matthew 7, Matthew 13, Matthew 24), so if Jesus died for the sins done against laws of God , then why should he punish the law breakers in the second coming? 
And most interestingly. In John 8:38-45 what Jesus Christ saying is contradictory to what Christians say about so called death of Christ.
Christians says that it is god’s plan to send his son (apparently son and father are one person according to some Christians) to be sacrificed for the sins of the world.
But Jesus says in John. 8:40-44 that this is not the work of God the Father, but the work of devil who is the father of those Jews who want to kill Jesus, and Jesus says he is a murderer in the beginning and he is father of lies,and no truth in him.
What CHRISTIANITY  had done about crucifixion , I am Writing below.
1- the Crucifixion açcording to Jesus
2 Crucifixion açcording to Christianity.
1- Crucifixion according to John 8 NIV (ORIGINAL  CHRIST’S VERSION) 
39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would  do what Abraham did.40  As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”
“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
Christ clearly says, it is not the desire or plan of the God of Abraham to Sacrifice Jesus, but the plan of the devil, the father of lies!. And Christians said, it is plan of the God LORD to sacrifice Jesus for the sins of the world, and making Devil the LORD who according to Jesus, devil is the Father of this Jews who wanted to kill Jesus!
John 8 NIV ( WE  RE-WRITE THE SAME GOSPEL WITH AÇCORDING TO THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE OF SACRIFICE VERSION) 
39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would  do what Abraham did. (You will immediately sacrifice me as an offering for the sins of the world and  hasten to save world) 
40  As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things, and you must do it, because Abraham and others prophets couldn’t do it to save the world, I m the only one going to save all . (kill me quickly so that world receive salavtion) 
41 You are doing the works of your own father.” you should do this work as soon as possible because it is the work of your father God of Abraham, who sent His son to be killed as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. 
“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. so fulfill the city of sacrificing me for the sins of the world without baffling!
43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. Do the Sacrifice now!
 44 You belong to your father, the Almighty God , and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a Sacrifice accepter from the beginning, not holding to the delay for there is fully truth in him. When he say Truth, he speaks his native language, for he is truth and the father of truth. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” that’s why you delaying the purpose I was sent for (to die at your hands for the sins of the world) 
The Christians hear believe, and act upon John 8 as I described above , that’s the difference between Christ (and Muslims ) and Christianity!
In simple meaning,the devil become god in Christian theology, by saying it is god’s plan to offer Jesus as a sacrifice! Which god’s plan? According to Jesus,in john 8:44  Satan’s plan. Satan the God of this world according to the bible again! 
CHRISTIANITY cannot exist in a higher advanced level of knowledge and thinking. It’s THEOLOGY and belief  only can survive among people who are willing to accept a school level studies and disregard all advanced level research and high level questions and points!
Remember your physics class in school ,you loved it in school and scored well,but in high school you started hating physics’, as physics in higher classes  turned difficult for  you. an you don’t want to study it in the university. In the same way , Christianity get you nice in its fairy tale leaning in the beginner level and the deeper you dig and the advanced level you are willing to  study you feel discomfort with it’s theological fallacy and the more advanced level you go in critical analysis and thinking, then you find, the Devil appearing instead of God and saying this plan of sacrifice is form God in reality the plan and desire of Satan , who through this crucifixion doctrines abolished God’s Laws, saying Jesus paid it all, thus bringing up a New world order society, that disregards laws and prophets and follow a secular religion, and breaking greatest of the Laws and coming with the signs that was foretold by Prophet Daniel, Isaiah (66:17) and second coming of Jesus destroys this system of the religion of Cross  which is the Wide gate and broad road that lead to destruction! (see Matthew , Chapaters 7,13,24  and Luke 13)
From discussions with pastors in England,UK
(c) Outreachislam.org 04 March 2018
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