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Gospel of Christ refutes Christian missionaries attributing Isaiah 9:6 to Jesus Christ

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Question: Christians use Isaiah 9:6 to give evidence to prove that Jesus is God. What is your thoughts on this?. Is Isaiah 9:6 speaking about Jesus Christ?, Please give us an insight according to the entirety of the Bible ?

Answer:

In the Name of Allah Most Merciful  Most Beneficent

In the Jewish Bible book Isaiah 9:6 we read:

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

However, this verse speaking about someone who had already born. It does not say: “For to us a son will be born”, rather it is said: “to us a son is given”. It is speaking about an event which had already happened. And says, when he grow up he will be known as a great person. According to the Jewish scholars, this verses speaks about King Hezekiah, the reigning Moshiach. It has nothing to do with the promised King Moshiach at all. A god of flesh is Pagan.

Even for an argument if we accept the Christian claim that it is speaking about Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him), then this verse actually negate Christian belief about Jesus Christ, though they use it to say Jesus is god , taken out of context and cherry picked!

The Reason:

In this Verse, Isaiah made a prophesy that, “he will be called might God”, Isaiah did not say: “he is mighty god”. I consider this words “mighty god and everlasting father” attributed to this child, as a prophecy, because the Christian world called Jesus Christ as “Everlasting Father” and they called him a “mighty God”.  Fulfilling the prophesy of Isaiah.  Thus fulfilling  the prophesy of Isaiah.

THE FACTS:

Christ did not leave a room for confusion and disorder. And all the false claims about Christ is refuted by Christ (Peace be upon him) by Himself!

1-Isaiah 9:6 did not say: He is everlasting father and mighty god!

Isaiah prophesied that: People will call him everlasting Father and mighty God!. Because Isaiah was well informed that the people will take him as God and will worship him replacing the real “everlasting father” and will be (become) everlasting father to those who claim that they follow him.
Yes, exactly that is what Christians did despite Clear teaching and warning from Christ!

2- No Everlasting Father on the Earth:

Jesus Christ teach and Correct the true followers: Because fake Sheep will worship him!

Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.

3- Worship only the God Who is in the Heavens (Omnipresent/Omniscient and Omnipotent)  

John 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.

Matthew 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’”

This verses refute Christian worshiping of Christ is falsehood!

4- Government will be on his shoulders?

Christ did not come to establish government on earth. Rather, those empires (Byzantine, Roman, and later Christian Kingdoms) took Jesus as the patron of their Kingdoms and Christianity that proclaim Jesus as everlasting father and mighty God as their state/official religions! Which is again fulfilling the prophesy of Isaiah in full context! The verse says: “governments in his shoulder”, but in the Kingdom of Heaven , the real Kingdom Jesus Christ (proclaimed) there is only one government,  not many governments!

John 18:36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”

But When he return he will be a King for whole world following the Last revelation which is for all mankind (see Revelation 14:6), but his Gospel was only for Jews.

Matthew 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

But Christians do not believe Jesus will rule this world. They Believe Jesus will collect his followers and leave to heavens.

5- Wonderful Counselor ?

According to Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him)Wonderful Counselor was to come after Christ.

John 14:26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

In three years ministry, there was not much advocacy and counsel from Christ. He said: It is for your good, I am going away and unless I go away the (wonderful) counselor will not come to you.

John 16:7 But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you.

John 16:13 However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come.

John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

Comments: John 15:15 says Jesus Christ has taught everything he learned from the Father and when Advocate comes (who is more wonderful and mighty in Wisdom and Understanding) Will teach everything!. So the real wonderful counselor is the one who came after Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him). Christians says, this is the holy spirit. But we can see that here are seven holy spirits of God and all Spirits of God are Holy!.

Revelation 4:5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God.

One Holy Spirit was here with mother of Christ, with Christ and disciples, but the Advocate who is also a Holy Spirit, Jesus must leave for him to come and the unique nature of this New Advocate is that: he speak only from (God) what he hears through revelation!

John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

6- Mighty God ?

Isaiah 9:6 prophesies that he will be called “mighty god”. , but the last prophet only known  as “Praised one” (Ahmad).

But according to the prophecies quoted both in the Book of Isaiah and in Matthew, Jesus is known as “Servant of God” not God or son of God. So we can see that Christians have taken Isaiah 9:6 out of context to establish a doctrine that was not preached by Isaiah or other Prophets (Peace be upon them)

See Isaiah 42:1Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.

Matthew 12:17Here is my servant whom I have chosen, the one I love, in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will proclaim justice to the nations.

We can also see that, no disciples has quoted Isaiah 9:6 to say Jesus is god nor did they worship Jesus as God!

Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) acknowledge himself as a Prophet, by saying:
“Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home.” (Mark 6:4, Luke 4:24)

John 4:44 Now He Himself had testified that a prophet has no honor in his own country.

He himself testified that he, as a Prophet, not honored in his own country. The same happened with Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) , the Prophet migrated to Madinah due to persecution and he find support and acceptance from the people of Madinah. This also prove that true Prophets can be identified according to this wisdom!

Muslims do not deny that, God has put His Spirit in Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him):

Ubadah bin As-Samit (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, “He who bears witness that there is no true god except Allah, alone having no partner with Him, that Muhammad is His slave and His Messenger, that ‘Isa (Jesus) is His slave and Messenger and he (Jesus) is His Word which He communicated to Maryam (Mary) and His spirit which He sent to her, that Jannah is true and Hell is true; Allah will make him enter Jannah accepting whatever deeds he accomplished”.[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Jesus Christ did not call himself god nor he was worshiped “as a god” by disciples during his life on this earth or after he ascended to heaven.

Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) is not only the chosen one, but we can that, Jacob (Peace be upon him) is called “Chosen one” see Isaiah 41:8, Isaiah is chosen servant see Isaiah 43:10, literally we can see that all Prophets are called “chosen one” to do the will of God and the Mission to convey God’s Covenants and Commandments.

7- Prince of Peace?

Jesus Christ did not come as a prince to make Peace in this world. But he was prince of the Heavens and his Peace was eternal , to give in the next world. Not in this world!.

The “Peace” that is according to the scripture is only given to “believers”, this is not about earthly peace. But heavenly peace (Salam). But general peace in this world (having no war/poverty/fear) which both believers and non-believers enjoy , and both believers and non-believers are deprived of earthly peace, comfort etc in some places!

Below verses proves that when a person strive to attain heavenly peace there is going to be conflict and even to shed blood, because of the people who oppose to seek heavenly peace and live with their own earthly peace attained through satisfying carnal desires!

Matthew 10:34 (also Luke 12:51) : “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Matthew 10:35 For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law–a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

Matthew 10:37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Matthew 10:37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

Luke 19:14 But his subjects hated him and sent a delegation after him to say, ‘We do not want this man to rule over us.’

Luke 20:16 He will come and kill those tenants, and will give the vineyard to others.And when the people heard this, they said, “May such a thing never happen!”

Also See Matthew 13:39-41 & Matthew 24:50-51

JEWS WILL BE TAKEN AWAY:

Matthew 21:43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.

Saintly (Pious) Arabs Will Inherit the Holy Land with Divinely authorized Authority:

Isaiah 60:7 All Kedar’s flocks will be gathered to you, the rams of Nebaioth will serve you; they will be accepted as offerings on my altar, and I will adorn my glorious temple.

Christians say: No more Temple and Jesus is the Temple, But Isaiah prophesies God Will appoint Ishmael as the custodians of the Holy Temple and God’s Temple will be adorned by true worshippers and true followers

JEWS WILL BE THROWN OUT:

Matthew 21:43 But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

False worshippers Will be Thrown Out: 

Luke 13:25-28 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’ “But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ “Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’”But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers*!’ (*See Matthew 15:9) “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.

True worshippers worship the God, worshipping Jesus is disobeying Jesus and disobeying Christ is  an evil deed!, Because disobedience is evilness!

See John 4:23-24  Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

John 14:21 Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

Conclusion:

We see what is true in regards to Isaiah 9:6 . Anyone can make their own doctrines by taking verses out of context, but the entire picture of the whole books read through spiritual insight will lead us to correct understanding. So we invite Christian scholars  to us that they are the true worshipers and true lovers. We are looking to discuss religion and theology   with real Christians. Not with those who speak and does not do what they speak!

James 1: 

Verses: 22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says. 23 Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror 24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. 25But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it—not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it—they will be blessed in what they do.
26 Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless. 27  Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
James 2:17 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
Actions must be according to the Commandments of Christ, not according to your own tradition. Real followers of Christ are those who denied themselves (their own corrupt ways and thoughts) and follow what is taught by Christ!

This are some of the facts that is straight and acceptable according to the whole context.

We hope this article will open the hearts of people. I hold no hatred against Sam Shamoun. He is a good enemy, who help people like me to take heed to defend our religion and faith. I love good enemies like Sam Shamoun.
I am awaiting Sam Shamoun to come and take up the mic on second Topic: “Is Jesus God the Son”.

If he is doing this work for honest and fruitful intentions rather than spreading malice and hatred then come forward. I had told Sam before the debate that, my field is spirituality, not debate or interfaith. So by knowing I am not an experienced and qualified debater (what is the meaning of qualified debater, did he set any qualifications?) he came forward to take up first subject and he put an end to the debate in an unethical and unprofessional way.  That he began debate promising in mail and at the beginning of debate he will debate both topics. Then he ran away like very indecent way, he put me to another man CP (Christian Prince) who was very dishonest and did not even allow me to speak for a minute each time when I got a chance to speak. He keep on blocking me there.

When I asked him to debate (Cp) the second topic, he did not want to debate the second topic? , Why are they afraid to preach their religion to me by debating: “Is Jesus god the son”?

I am sorry for the Christian middle class who pay for this kind of fake ministries. If you want to make people Christians , then become a servant for mankind, help and support people in need instead of paying “slanderers and abusers”. Christianity will not win anyone by indecent comments and slandering another religion.

We thank Sam Shamoun and his like minded people in Missionary profession. You guys are our foremost Ambassadors of Islam.

People are not dumb and stupids , they study everything with a free mind, and your  work is promoting Islam. I also would like to donate money to your ministry.
 
Personally I am very thankful to you, you are an open enemy of Islam, an open enemy is a worthy enemy. Some secret enemies of Islam paying for you and they are fools and  remember this verse:
Quran 3:54 And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners.
Quran 8:30 And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.
Sam Shamoun and other Christian apologetics planned against Islam and truth, Allah Also planned, and Allah’s Plan Only Succeed.

I sincerely thank Christian apologetics and their sponsors , you are the ambassadors of our faith, and you do not own or control the minds of people, and through your false ways and through our refutations, people Judge your false claims and will surrender to the truth. What is coming out from your heart is going to defile you and your religious organisations!

One thing I can promise you, next decade is decade of Islam and Truth.

Praise be to Allah Lord of the Worlds
(c) Outreachislam.org  02/07/2016
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