In the Name of Allah Most Merciful Most Beneficent
Peace and blessings of Allah be upon the Prophets of Allah, and upon our Prophet Prophet of End of Times, Nabi Muhammad his family and companions
Greetings to all my Christian brothers and sisters, We Muslims from the Ottoman Sunni Creed asking this ‘Islamic questions’ from the Bible and we pray that may this questions be an opening of the quest of your heart and souls to seek the truth.
Islam teach that there are seventy more sects among Jews (71 sects),Christians (72 sects) and Muslims (73 sects). Islam teach that among all this sects, only one sect is saved and all the rest of the sects are in misguidance and error , travelling in the path of destruction! . That saved sect is those who follow the authentic way and teachings of the Prophets and their disciples (Companions). See Sunan Ibn Majah, Arabic-English 3992, Darussalam Publishers)
Therefore, we ask the various Christian groups, whether their way follow the authentic way of Christ or follows some later invented paths!. We love and respect our fellow Christian brothers and sisters ,so if someone really love and respect others, he must guide them to the true ways, instead of showing crocodile love and fake westernised formal respect!
So I ask my Christian brothers and sisters to sit alone, read this questions and key points , and think about it deeply.
The Questions and Key points are:
1- Are you really a follower of the Way of Christ (peace be upon him)?
The Christian version of Gospel teach that the Path of the Gospel is sent only to the Lost Sheep of Israel, not to any other tribes. The Two Commandments Christ (Peace be upon him) spoken reveals this.
Matthew 15:24 Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep–the people of Israel.”
The women as non-Jew (non-Israelite) , Christ even denied to offer her his power of spiritual healing, because his powers were also meant to help only the children of Israel. Then how can someone claim, he sent his Gospel Way for non-Jews?
Matthew 15:25-26 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. But Jesus replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.
Matthew 10:5-6 These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go onto the road of the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.
I know the fact that you quote the verses from the Matthew 28:19 to say Jesus commanded to make disciples of all nations.
Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
But the problem is highlighted in the red, in the above verse. There is not even a single evidence of baptism performed by the Disciples or Apostles of Christianity , as said in Matthew 28:19. We cannot find any single incident in the New Testament that disciples baptized their followers as stated in Matthew 28:19. Either there were no such commandments , or the disciples did not obey Christ!. We cannot find a single verse in the Books of Apostles in which it says: “They were baptized in the name of the Father of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”.
The disciples called Gentiles to righteousness and belief in One God, the God of Prophet Abraham ,Prophet Ishmael,Prophet Isaac and Prophet Jacob (Peace be upon them all)
The Real Followers of Christ, must live like Christ:
1 John 2:6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.
1John 4:17 This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus.
To live like Christ, one must also follow all the Laws and Commandments of the Gospel and of the Torah. Because Christ lived according to both traditions. This itself prove that, only the Israelite can live like Christ and can follow the way of the Gospel. Because the Torah was sent to only the House of Israel. Only someone who adhere to the Laws of Torah can live like Christ. Because only one who can discipline his outward life can discipline his spiritual life and vice versa. Because our actions are a reflection of our heart and mind.
2- Do you follow the Laws and Commandments of the Scriptures?.
According to the Bible, those who follow the laws and commandments of God, can only be a follower of Christ.
See John 14:15 “If you love me, obey my commandments.
John 14:21 Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him.”
This Law-Breakers also Include Christians, not just those who rejected Christ. See
Matthew 7:22 -24 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me,you workers of lawlessness.’ Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock
Comments: Only Christians preach and prophesy in Christ’s name, and use healing power in Christ’s name. But Christ deny them. How can people who show such miracles, wonders and preaching in the name of Christ and make many people to follow them,become the workers of lawlessness and Christ deny them when he returns?. This is a very important point my dear Christian brothers and sisters to think about.
3- Whom Do you Worship?
This is the most important Question, the greatest of all. We are commanded to Worship the God of Abraham and the Prophets (Peace be upon them all)
Jesus Christ foretold people worship him in vain or people worship God in Vain through worshiping him instead of worshiping God Almighty.
We worship the God to Whom Jesus Bowed down and prayed.
See Hebrews 5:7 While Jesus was here on earth, he offered prayers and pleadings, with a loud cry and tears, to the one who could rescue him from death. And God heard his prayers because of his deep reverence for God.
You say, Jesus is God by misinterpreting his close relationship with God as a Sincere Servant and Prophet. But the books of Apostles says Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) was a servant of God whom God Anointed and made as High Priest and Apostle (See Hebrews 5:5 and Hebrews 3:1). And the scripture (Hebrews 5:5) says, Jesus becoming son of God was a phrase used to describe “becoming high priest”.
Hebrews 5:5 In the same way, Christ did not take on himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, “You are my Son; today I have become your Father.”
Hebrews 3:1 Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest.
Do you know that all Muslims acknowledge Jesus as Apostle of Allah and High Priest (an Imam for the children of Israel)?. The scripture warn you to fix your thoughts about Christ. The best thought about Christ according to the scripture is to “Acknowledge Christ as a Prophet and High Priest”.
We Muslims acknowledge Christ as an Apostle and High Priest, then how can we be Antichrist, as some of your apologetics slander us?
Jesus Christ (Peace be upon him) never commanded to Worship him. There is no Covenant Laws, or Covenant Commandment nor a established practice to worship Christ as Deity found in the scripture.
You quoted verses like: Matthew 14:33 Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”
And you claimed Jesus was worshiped, let me ask you. Jesus worshiped as what?. He was worshiped as a holy man, a Prophet and Apostle. This worship was not a worship as deity. Even in this verse, it only means, those who were in the boat revered him , paid respect to him and their respect/worship was to say: Truly you are the son (son=high priest, see Hebrews 5:5) of God. They did not prostrate or offered a lengthy prayer in his presence as people worship God.
The entire New Testament give us reference that in the entire three years ministry, that is about 156 weeks, Jesus Christ was worshiped only 6 times. Do you think that this will be the case if Christ was deity?
All the worship of Christ in the scriptures were only an act of reverence, which is even today practiced by Muslims, Hindus, Catholic and Orthodox Christians, to revere their high priests and spiritual leaders!, even other communities also bow down and touch feet of their elders to honour them and seeking their blessings .
The worship given to christ was just reverence which is given to holy man by their followers or those who adored them. This kind of “Worship/Reverence” only happened very rare occasions when Christ arrived at a place and those who are welcoming him worshiped him . Or during the time when those who loved him when they arrived in his gathering they revered him, but not anyone else engage in such worship who were always with him.
For example: Pope is sitting in his throne, and all his ministers are in his court. A bishop or a cardinal is arriving from another country, he will fall down at the feet of Pope and revere him. Another occasion, the pope and his officials travelling to Cyprus, those who welcoming him paying homage to him, and those who are already travelling in his company they are just accompanying him. Such incidents happened in the life of Christ, is called as “worship”. It was never worshiping Christ as “Deity”!
And lastly, if Christ was worshiped as a deity, how come we do not find in any new testament books, that the disciples established worshiping christ!. Not even a single account in the New Testament which can tell us disciples worshiped Christ as deity!
Two things cannot be right, either disciples and their followers who did not worship Christ as deity are wrong , or those who worship Christ as deity are wrong. However, we chose the second to be wrong!
The Commandment of Christ is to Worship the God Alone:
John 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
John 14:15-16 “If you love me, keep my commands.
Who is keeping the commandment of John 4:23-24 today?
John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever–
The Advocate is Only Given to those who Keep that Everlasting Commandment.
How can we have different Churches (Catholic, Charismatic, Protestant, Orthodox etc) that oppose each other and shows the power of same Holy Spirit in all this opposing Churches?
WORSHIP (PAYING RESPECT) IN THE BIBLE :
Joshua 5:14 And he said, “No; but I am the commander of the army of the LORD. Now I have come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped and said to him, “What does my lord say to his servant?” (ESV)
Joshua 5:14 And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? (King James)
“Worship” is also used in other translation like ISV, HCSB etc.
Unfortunately,Christians take the word “Worship” related to Christ out of context and say Jesus was worshiped and he is god. Then Joshua and Daniel (see Daniel 2:46) are also deities?
When I said worship of Jesus in the Scriptures is an act of reverence given to the Prophet of God Jesus Christ peace be upon him just During his arrival and departure or the visitors arrival and departure and there is no worship of Jesus as deity in the entire new Testament, Pastor Daniel From US who claimed to be an apologetics from US, who came to Luton argued with me that Israelites do not worship anyone but the Lord. Only Jesus Christ was worshiped.
When I quoted Daniel 2:46, pastor Daniel became speechless.
4- Did Christ Abolish the Laws and Set everyone free from laws?
Matthew 5:18-19 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (NIV)
Literally, until Doomsday established and everything is annihilated, Only God Almighty Remains Eternally, no Laws will be abolished. Can Christians honestly say that heavens and earth had disappeared during the so called “crucifixion” day?, if not then how can someone say, we leave law and believe we are in the grace!?
Law itself is a grace to keep us pure and safeguard us from the pollution of the earthly things!
James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
As I asked in the question 2 , if Christ abolished laws on the cross, then isn’t it unfair to destroy those who leave the laws, when Christ returns to this world?
Entire Prophesy in the New Testament about the “Returning of Christ” speaks about Islamic Christ!
5- Did Christ die on the Cross as an Atonement Sacrifice for the sins of the world?
If Christ died for the sins of the world, then you will see a Christ who is returning to bless everyone. But Christ is coming back to destroy the lawless and the head of Lawless (Antichrist) and to rule here on the throne of the Prophet and King David (Peace be upon them all).
I interacted with pastors on the crucifixions stories in the Bible. They quoted a saying from Christ that is :”I must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things and will be handed over to be killed and third day will rise up”.
Matthew 16:21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
The pastors who quoted this and then straight to went to the crucifixions story ignored or not interested in many New Prophesies that were taken place, when Christ was in Jerusalem!
Below are those Prophecies:
John 7:32 The Pharisees heard the crowd whispering such things about him. Then the chief priests and the Pharisees sent temple guards to arrest him.
John 7:33 Jesus said, “I am with you for only a short time, and then I am going to the one who sent me.
Christ did not say, he is going to a Pagan cross to save the world by sacrificing his life!
John 7:34 You will look for me, but you will not find me; and where I am, you cannot come.”
Jews look for Christ not to follow him, but to kill him, but they will not find him, because they cannot he is going!
John 7:35 The Jews said to one another, “Where does this man intend to go that we cannot find him? Will he go where our people live scattered among the Greeks, and teach the Greeks?
John 7:35 is giving us clear insight to what was happening. Their questions gives us what they thought of Christ!. And the answer Christ giving was not: “I am going to be killed on the cross for the sins of the World”.
John 7:36 What did he mean when he said, ‘You will look for me, but you will not find me,’ and ‘Where I am, you cannot come’?”
John 8:21 Once more Jesus said to them, “I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.”
John 7:35 and John 8:22 is giving us clear insight to what was happening. Their questions gives us what they thought of Christ!. And the answer Christ giving was not: “I am going to be killed on the cross for the sins of the World”.
John 8:22 This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?”
John 8:23 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
Christ did not say, you will catch and kill me on a cross and I will die (let myself be killed) as an atonement sacrifice for the sins of the world!
Islam confirms God sent His Angels and lifted Christ up in to the heavens, as prophesied in Psalm
Christian scholars ignore this prophesy, because this prophecies questions entire Crucifixion story attributed to Christ!.
GOD WILL NOT FORSAKE CHRIST AS IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE BOOKS OF THE PROPHETS:
See John 16:32 “A time is coming and in fact has come when you will be scattered, each to your own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me.
And who is then this man on the cross, with such weak fallible faith in God, crying: “O God Why you have forsaken me”???
Certainly it is not Christ! Because:
6- Is there Original Sin or Original Innocence?
7- Is there Trinity?
According to the Christian theology: “There is one God, who exists eternally in three distinct but equal persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God is unchangeable in his holiness, justice, wisdom and love. He is the almighty Creator; Saviour and Judge who sustains and governs all things according to his sovereign will for his own glory.” (Ref: FIEC.ORG.UK)
If there is Trinity How come “Jesus was Made Lower than Angels for a time”?
Hebrews 2:9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.
John 5:30 By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
Mark 10:18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good–except God alone.
However, Christian friends ignore all this verses and quote (John 10:30) out of it’s context!
John 10:30 I and the Father are one.”
And 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
The Christians take 1 John 5:7 out of context, explained below:
Also If three are one, it contradict trinity, Trinity doctrine advocate three are three distinctive but equal persons!
And Ignores John 10:29 and 14:28
John 10:29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
John 14:28 you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
John 20:17 I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'”
So what is the context of all this verses? What si the context of “I and Father are one”
I and father are one in what sense?, it is in the sense “I am in the Father the Father is in me”, not only that, but “You are in Us”
See: John 14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
In Islam Christ is Known with the Title “Roohullah” which means the “Spirit of God”, Because Spirit of God Lead him as even prophesied in Isaiah 42:1 . Spirit of God Dwells in the Chosen Servants of God. It is not exclusive to Christ!.
You quoted out of context John 20:28 to say Jesus is God!
John 20:28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
I think I have explained this above or below. Just adding this matter on 16/10/2016 as it came to my heart. If you have understood scripture in whole context you will not take this verse out of context to claim Jesus is god!
Because the same Thomas did not worship Jesus as God, there is entirely no descriptions that Jesus was worshiped as God/Deity. If Thomas meant Jesus was God, then he did not live and preach according to his knowledge.
So in what context Thomas said: “My Lord and My God” , at that point. To know that read the whole context!
John 20: 27-29 Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen, and yet have believed.”
Comments: This is a spiritual vision through union with the Spirituality of Christ, Christ reveals him the gnosis of God and his spiritual station.
Thomas replied to Christ’s order by saying: “My lord (Master), and Thomas realized something and exclaimed my Lord. This exclamation was not pointed to Christ, for sure. If he meant to say “my God” to Christ, then we we would have seen a Thomas who is regularly worshiping Christ as “Deity”.
Even we make this kind of exclamation today. For example my close friend want to give me a surprise. He brought a luxury watch for me and held in his hand, and he said: “come here and see this, and i went to him and hold his hand and he opened his palm and I was surprised and said: “Yes friend (See O My Lord) , Oh my God, is this for me?”.
I did not mean the watch is God or my friend is God, in that moment out of excitement I said: O My God. This kind of explanation people make today!
People usually says: O My Gosh, O my God, O Jesus, Ya Allah and so on, when they are surprised of seeing a wonder, miracle or a secret that is revealed unexpectedly!
According to this verse, only Thomas has seen Christ, even the Advocate who is coming after Christ, the world will not know him nor sees him. But literally, both believers and unbelievers seen Christ and heard his voice. But seeing one’s real state and spiritual reality is different to seeing earthly. So if Thomas meant Christ is God, be would have gathered everyone to worship Christ!, but no such effort came from Thomas’ side!
See John 14:20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
It is in every spiritual traditions of all religious scriptures that, “Only through the discipleship of a spiritual teacher one can realise God”. We need a big heart and soul to understand what the verse actually means.
Thomas was given a spiritual wisdom through which Christ miraculously gave him the knowledge of the Spiritual rank of Christ and the knowledge of God (Gnosis/Ma’rifa)
John 10:38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
WAHDATHUL WUJOOD (ONENESS IN LOVE AND IN SPIRIT)
John 17:21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
If Jesus is God because God’s Spirit in him, then all those who have spirit of God in them will be deities?. The Sufism/Spiritual way of Christ is misunderstood by the Church, without paying attention to the Divine Laws and it’s Mysteries!
Islam clearly spoke of such Oneness in God, which Holy Servants of God attains through Test and trials!
John 14:20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.
If God’s Spirit dwells in a Person and he become deity to be worshiped, then there are 1000s of deities!.
But God Must be worshiped in Spirit and Truth, not in Mortal False deities!
1 Corinthians 3:16 Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?
Joel 2:28“And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.
Joel 2:29 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days.
So we can see that, God’s Spirit to lead a person is not exclusive to Christ and such things cannot be the reason for one to be worshiped as god/deity!
John 14:12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
Can we say Those who do greater work than Christ (peace be upon him) are greater deities than Christ?. We need to leave earthly wisdom and follow what is truth and heavenly!
Jesus Christ peace of Allah be upon him did not say:I m son of God and Anyone who believe I came to die on a pagan cross for the sins of the world will attain salvation (Kingdom).
But he surely said: “Unless you surpasse the righteousness of the Pharisees and teachers of the law (Sadducees) you will certainly not inherit the kingdom of God”
Understanding the verse before this, the righteousness is linked to the laws and commandments of God. To surpasses the Pharisees and teachers of the law means, you will excel in following those laws and commandments of God
We call to the worship of the God of Abraham Ishmael Issac and Jacob peace be upon them, to righteousness to the love of all Prophets and holy ones.
We warn about Satan Antichrist, forces of darkness and all evil.
We are cautious on things that corrupt body mind and soul. This are the same message and way of salvation all Prophets including Christ bringing to the world.
Irrefutable Challenge to American Evangelical Apologetic Sam Shamoun (Answering-Islam.org):
Mr. Sam Shamoun, you said Allah is not God of anyone and Prophet Muhammad alaihiswalathu wa Salam is not the Advocate mentioned in John 16:7-9 and 14:16, because according to your foolish thoughts, God is Yahweh and Yahweh fathered Israel and Yahweh sent His son Jesus and God is not Father in Islam and Jesus is not Son of God in Islam. And Father and Son sent Advocate and God in Islam is not Father Yahweh and Jesus is not son of God in Islam.
Our Answer: Mr. Sam Shamoun according to your logic and foolish thoughts, Yahweh is not God of Jesus and So not sent by a God Yahweh who is a father of many.
Just because Islam do not say God as Father and His Holy servants as son, if that make Islam false. Then Jesus Christ also did not say that “Yahweh is God”. Jesus Christ peace be upon him never spoken about Yahweh in the new Testament. Show us a single evidences in the new Testament, where Christ calls God Yahweh?!
In the Lord’s Prayer and in any of the prayers, Christ is not using the word “YHWH” nor the authors of the Gospel.
If Jesus Christ was sent by Yahweh, then show me where Jesus Christ says or calls God Almighty “Yahweh!?”
You claim Yahweh is God’s name and Quran and hadith never spoken of Jehova. Did Christ call God as Yahweh? ‘
So answer us and then go on to attack Islam and Muslims!
CONVERSATION WITH PASTOR: INSAAN AL KAAMIL,RABBANI, MAN BEING THE IMAGE OF GOD.
When you say I am sorry, is it also includes holy spirit and Christ spirit in you?
Outreach Islam It is said do not grieve holy spirit
If you have holy spirit, you must follow higher laws of keeping holy and not grieving and defame holy spirit, putting yourself(the bearer of Holy Spirit) in a situation to feel sorry and say sorry constantly.
This are heavy claims to say we have holy spirit in us. what comes out from us defame us and make us and our spirit grieve.
And make the spirit of God grieve
I don’t know whether you are saying you have holy spirit, just because you feel nice and being good person.
In Islam being good and keeping clean is the beginning of the path.
And highest level is to.become Rabbani.
Ihsaan Al kaamil -the perfect human, by striving to reach in the original state God created man (in His own image).
And you made only Christ the image of God, taking the Tasawwuf (Sufi Wisdom) of Gospel out of context
But God speaks God made man in his Image when Adam was created. He created Adam.in his image.Insaan Al kaamil
And everyone must strive to become insaan Al kaamil, in gospel covenant it is by following the footsteps of Christ and living like Christ. But you made this “Man being in the image of God” exclusive to Christ alone. When the Torah says God Created Man (Adam) in His Image.
And Christ said :”on that day (the day when you become Rabbani -insaan Al kaamil -perfect man, as the day God made Adam in His Image) you will know that I am in the Father the Father Is in me and you are in us”
But your scholars and priests brought a new doctrine and corrupt the original message of the Gospel and Torah.
And Islam came to refine and reform the original message of all the prophets
Our grand Shaykh was asking: “If Jesus is god, then to whom did he prostrate to’!,??
The Bible says Jesus prostrated and Prayed to God.
Why Christians not prostrating to God?
Book of revelation also speaking about worshiping God is to prostrate and worship in fear.
So why then no church today prostrate in Prayers?
As you believe book of revelation is given to complete the way of Christ. So how then prostration is taken away from Christian worship?
Also, though belief In holy spirit is part of Church, But how come then the “Holy Spirit” did not become central figure in the Churches, when Christ Said about the coming of Advocate (Holy Spirit) Is good for them.
How come Father and holy spirit less remembered in churches and less coverage in the worship ???
You were supposed to make the three equal not only in doctrine but also in the practical worship.
But only Christ is worshipped, while Christ ordered only to worship the Father(Rabb)???
Who invented this twist in the Churches?
Something to think about!!
After all this story telling, according to Christians Jesus dying on cross is merely for one and only reason, to set people free from.God’s laws and Condemnations. There is no other reason Christ to die there.
So if then, the returning of Christ rebuke this Christian interpretation of new Testament and Biblical stories. according to Christians As Christ set free people from laws,but Christ coming back to kill all law-breakers!!!.
Make it clear that christ did not set people free from Laws. So then Christ need not die on a pagan cross, so Christ did not go to a Cross to die.
So the theory of salvation of Christianity is in vain
8- Has the Bible Been Changed or Distorted?
Questions to a Pastor :
If you listened then, you have answers why Jesus not spoken of God as Yahweh?, Jesus -the head of the Assembly of God according to Christianity, forgotten to reveal God’s Name?. Show us one verse where Christ Calls upon “YHWH”? You says Islam is false,because Islam does not teach God as YAHWE!. So where is the New Testament Christ had spoken of God as YAHWEH?. Can you show us a verse from Christ in the New Testament with the Name “YAHWEH”?
How come 70 family members of Prophet Joseph peace be upon him became 75 in a book (Acts) that was written 1000 years after Moses (alaihiswalathu wa Salam) ?
Three Books of Old Testament says; Joseph (Peace be upon him) and 70 Family members, How then, New Testament says 75 family members? Is Torah corrupted or Is Acts corrupt book?
How come head covering of male priests which is a God’s law in the Torah and Gospel became dishonour in the Christian new Testament! (Corinthians) ?
How come Jesus will destroy lawless ones when he returns when church teach he had paid for everyone’s sins on a cross and set people free from.God’s condemnation and punishment?
How come Christians ended up worshiping Jesus when he clearly commanded true worshipers will worship the Father and no.one on the earth is to be called Father?
Also another question “when Jesus said you must take up cross daily and follow me, or you are not worthy of.me” how.can Christians say,Jesus paid for.all on a cross when everyone has to take up cross (hardship to bear the covenants and commandments of the Gospel)?
For example lower your vision (don’t stare at woman) keep holy and live like Christ etc
9- Did Christ instructed to Revere and Follow a Pagan cross Daily?
If Christ meant to take up a pagan cross daily, then Christians already disobedient to Christ everyday, by.not taking up pagan cross
Especially when cross punishment is not used today and pagans no more ruling, the gospel order to take up cross is no more possible
So without pagan cross it is impossible to follow Christ way today
If cross meant taking up a pagan cross See the truth and truth set you free Jesus Said take up cross “daily ” Not one time or one day
So it clearly means the laws of Gospel not a pagan cross. Because if Jesus paid it all why should everyone take up their.cross “daily”?
Luke 9:23 Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.
Gospel of Christ is the Cross Way to Salvation , not by Death, but by Living bearing all the commandments and walking in the Narrow Path by living like Christ!. It if it is a path by carrying a pagan cross daily and dying on it then know that the way of Pagans and the way of Prophets goes to two different direction.
10- Can Immortal God Become Mortal man?
According to Church, Jesus is called God and Worshiped. Can Invisible God be Mortal Man and live among people?
Bible Reject Christ’s Divinity:
1 Timothy 1:17 All honor and glory to God forever and ever! He is the eternal King, the unseen one who never dies; he alone is God. Amen. (Tawheed Verse from the Bible, See Quran Chapter 1 and Chapter 112 and CH 2 Verse: 285)
1 Timothy 6:16 He alone is immortal and dwells in unapproachable light. No one has ever seen Him, nor can anyone see Him. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.
Sometimes people quote (out of context) Colossians 1:15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
The truth is according to the scriptures that came before new Testament books, Adam (Peace be upon him) also image of God! Which does not make Adam (A.S) and Christ (A.S) deities!
According to Church Jesus is God and died on cross, according to the Bible Only the Immortal Invisible God is the Only God! This verse is in full agreement with all Islamic sources ,Torah and all scriptures. If Christ was seen as the deity then they would not have written all this here!
There is Only Rabbaniyyah (Earned Godliness) Not Ilahiya (eternal Divinity) in Holy Ones!
God Will not Change: Malachi 3:6
Isaiah 48:11 For my own sake, for my own sake, I do this. How can I let myself be defamed? I will not yield my glory to another.
ANSWERS FROM DEUTERONOMY:
Since you believe Deuteronomy 18 speaks about Christ and not about Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them). Deuteronomy reject the Divinity of Christ!
See Deuteronomy 18: 16 For this is what you asked of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, “Let us not hear the voice of the Lord our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die.”
17 The Lord said to me: “What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.
This prophesy clearly says, Israelites will never hear the Word of God directly from God, rather God Will Rise Up a Prophet Like Moses to them.
MY QUESTIONS PASTOR :
God is not Father, later authors of Gospel in the Greek Language wrote it according to Greek theology and literature
Jews and followers of Christ usually write scriptures in Hebrews and Aramaic. Not in Greek, the language of pagans
As my question again:
You sat Jehova (Yahweh) IS God, then how come Jesus never revealed Yahweh. Not a single time Jesus called God “Yahweh”. What’s your words to it according to the Bible?
(you said Jehova is God’s name and Islam does not call God Yahweh). Jesus also did not say Yahweh.
So Jesus must be Muslim
Jesus Christ prostrated to his Cod and Prayed. Why Christians never prostrate?
All Prophets prostrated. Why Christians adopted a different way (human traditions see Matthew 15:9 And Mark 7:7-9) other than the way of Christ and Prophets in prayers and worship!?
Could it be the fulfilment of Christ’s prophesy:
See Matthew 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.'”?
And Mark 7:7-9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!
And it’s consequences :
Matthew 7:22-23.Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles..But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’
2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.
Bible totally speaks about” Islamic Christ ” who is Returning to this world, contrary to.the Christian version of Historical Jesus
Matthew 13:41 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
Matthew 3:12 His winnowing fork is in His hand to clear His threshing floor and to gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
Therefore we see that the clear cut commands from.christ is to worship God Alone and do not worship anyone else, then what Is the evidence of worshiping Christ as deity?
When not even a single evidences in the Bible to show that disciples or their followers took Jesus as deity.
The worship of Christ stated in the Bible is only an act of reverence and paying homage to Christ during his arrival and departure and or when disciples arrival and departure. Such type of “Worship” (see Daniel 2:46) also mentioned in the old testament and only 4 times occurred in the new Testament in the entire three years of.christ’s mission and nothing after Christ ascended to.heaven
I suggest you instead of saying your own opinion take.this facts seriously and study about it accept the truth
Another thing about trinity: when the Bible says Jesus was made lower than angels and his glory of becoming son is actually a phrase used.to describe his attainment of Priesthood (see Hebrews 5:5, Hebrews 3:1) how can some claim Jesus is eternally equal to God. When all all prophesies points that Jesus is a holy servant of God and mediator.
If.jesus himself is Triunion God, why should he mediate?
Also next point: if Jesus paid for all sins and guilt done under the law. Why should he kill lawless and burn down people in Fire, when he returns to this world?
ANSWERS TO CHARISMATIC PASTOR:
Now everyone waiting returning of the Christ. So where is the work of Holy Spirit from churches which should have been established by Holy Spirit with “all truth, and everything to be told and put in order”
??? The eternal Gospel preached by angel (Revelation 14:6) where is it? That Gospel bring clarification to everything. That guide all mankind that establish the laws of God.
For example, if Jesus Christ paid everything on the cross and set everyone free from laws, he should not have to kill the lawless when he returns, as Christians who Abandon laws are also included in this mass punishment as stated in Matthew 7:20-25
And Luke 13:27
2 Thessalonians 2:8 (NLT) Then the man of lawlessness will be revealed, but the Lord Jesus will kill him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by the splendor of his coming.
So Christ is coming with a sword and a poisonous breath that will kill the hypocrites and disbelievers. Not coming with read roses and loving all. “Jesus love all” headings on a Church plate work only for those who follow their ego. Jesus only love those who are obeying the commands of the God of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) As a matter of fact Islam confirm this, and Islamic Jesus Christ is the returning Jesus Christ of the Bible
Because Christ says until everything is accomplished nothing from the laws will be removed. So if it (crucifixion Story and death of Christ) means accomplishment on the cross then Christ does not have to destroy lawless when he returns (Isaiah 66:17, 2 Thessalonians 2:8)
It is also said: (Matthew 5:18)
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Heaven and earth is still here, then how come someone can claim laws finished and everyone is saved by grace?
We follow what is straight and what is true.
STATEMENT TO A CHRISTIAN PASTOR :
We acknowledge there are different types of followers in every religion. Different levels of followers who attribute themselves to Christ or Prophet of Islam or Moses (peace be upon them all).
We acknowledge authentic way of Christ as what he taught in the Gospel. To deny the self and to live like Christ. The true way and the true worshipers follow that straight path. But there are other people who love Christ and follow Christ in their own way and understanding, some people follows Islam in their own cherry pick and choose ways, cherry picked commands and rejected other commands. If someone else who come to us and say this is the way of salvation and you must follow us, we then cross examine them and if their way, teachings and practices are not fully compatible with the original teachings of the prophets or christ and not found in the law or commandments or sound traditions from that prophet, we say to those self acclaimed people or groups: “to you is your way to us is our way, we do not follow you, we follow what is true and sound and straight”
You can do whatever you want and it affect me in no way and everyone is accountable for their actions and fellowships they chose.
We have chosen a fellowship that is proven to be true and straight path and free from all innovations and false doctrines
If Islam is false, you must find what make Islam false. And your findings should not be double standard and leading to hypocrisy. Means, your so called findings that make Islam false, the same reasons should not make prophets of the Bible also false. If Islam is true then you have no other choice but to surrender to the Prophet of Islam with whole heart
And if we are claiming to be smart and intelligent with God’s Power and Holy Spirit in us, then if we cannot know the truth and mysteries of the past and scriptures, then we.are only making a false claim and fooling ourselves
And when we depart from our body, we will not find any friends or relatives to be with us except the spiritual fellowship we earned. If we earned a true heavenly fellowship that will reflect in us in this world as a mirror and hereafter as a reality. And nothing is a surprise for the believers. Believers are always seeing.
“Lovers do not meet somewhere, they are together all the way” ~ Mawlana Rumi. This is the fundamental principles of Islamic Spirituality (see Quran 4;169)
ONLY FOOLS FORSAKE THE WAY AND LIFESTYLE OF THE PROPHET ABRAHAM:
Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem.
Allahumma Swalli Ala Sayyidina Muhammadin wa Ala aali Sayyidina Muhammadin wa Sallim
Quran 2:130 And who forsakes the religion of Ibrahim but he who makes himself a fool, and most certainly We chose him in this world, and in the hereafter he is most surely among the righteous.
Religion of Abraham (Peace be upon him) means the customs traditions and belief that is taught by Nabi Ibrahim alaihiswalathu wa salam and those who followed him.
Following tradition, culture and practice that contradict the way of Nabi Ibrahim alaihiswalathu wa salam, which are brought by non-religious/untraceable people (those without chain of transmission/spiritual lineage etc) are in the footstep of Satan. Because Satan only deliver religion, customs and culture without address (unknown givers)
Quran 2:208 O ye who believe! Come, all of you, into submission (unto Him); and follow not the footsteps of the devil. Lo! he is an open enemy for you.
All Prophets and Holy Books teaching the same things (You must deny yourself and then follow the way of God, you must resist devil, do not partake in the futile deeds of Darkness, do not be yoked with the disbelievers etc etc)
So if someone incorporating the pre-Islamic way (the way and traditions brought by unknown people) that contradict and stand against the ways of the Prophets,then it is the strayed path!
This matters came to my heart when I heard this Sohbet of Shaykh Lokman Hoja Hazret, in which Shaykh mentions “wearing turban is a Sunnah of Nabi Ibrahim alaihissalam”
On the authority of Abu Muhammad Abdullah bin ’Amr bin al-’Aas (may Allah be pleased with him) who said:
The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “None of you [truly] believes until his desires are subservient to that which I have brought.” [Imam an-Nawawi says:] We have related it in Kitab al-Hujjah with a saheeh chain of narrators. (Imam Nawawi 40 Hadith, No:41)
Quran 1:7 The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray.
Christians finally say: Trinity, Jesus being God, everything is a mystery and undisclosed matter. Let me ask you: Are this things mystery to Christ and disciples as well? That’s why they did not teach all of this in their books and letters?. If Christ is the only mediator and teacher of the Covenant of the Gospel , Christ leaving without teaching all this things is in a big question, everyone to think about!
Because it is said: John 15:15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
If Christ (Peace be upon him) had made known everything God had told him, then how can someone claim that Trinity is a big mystery and to follow new things that did not teach by Christ?. John 15:15 clearly refute all such claims!
Also, John 15:15 which says: for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. refutes trinity doctrine.
Because, Trinity belief says: “Father Son and Holy Spirit are three distinctive persons but equal in Glory and Power”
But Christ says, Everything he learned from God, had taught his followers, but when the Advocate Holy Spirit comes he will teach all things and will tell everything that is yet to come”
John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
John 15:15 for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
Without giving high respect and honour to the Advocate (Prophet Muhammad Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) it is difficult to grasp the truth and understand the mysteries of the entire scripture. As there will be a veil and seal on the heart of those who have malice against Prophet Muhammad (alaihiswalathu wa salam) see Quran 108:3
So we can see the Advocate has more knowledge than Jesus Christ (peace be upon him). Christ had taught everything he learned from God, But Advocate , when He comes he will teach everything and will guide into all the truth. This is why Christ says: “It is for your good that I am going away, unless I go away the advocate will not come to you” (See John 14:16,John 16:7-10)
No religion, no creation and no doctrines can stand higher than truth. The last word spoken in every religion is: “Truth will prevail falsehood will perish”. Truth alone triumphs, I am the Truth, Anal Haqq, Satyame Va Jayathe etc etc.
I am not speaking my own thoughts or some philosophy , but saying what I have seen.